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Nov 13 2006 - 02:36 PM
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![]() 'Floating' Director of CsC Group: Moderators Posts: 20,321 Joined: May 24th, 05 From: Ladysmith, Vancouver Island, BC CDN Member No.: 5 |
My headliner was filthy as will be most cabrio owners' headliners, because when the car is driven with the top down, it catches the wind and filters any dirt that is in the air, trapping it in the light coloured fabric.
So how is it removed? You start by releasing the very end at the back of the car. Open the tailgate, flip up the rear window and dig your fingernails into the hard plastic ridge at the end of the headliner, on either the left or right side, pulling it gently out of the slot in the black plastic panel, into which it is embedded. Work gently from one side to the other. Note: this rear part is not held in by a barbed clip or anything that is difficult to release; it is a friction fit only.
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![]() 2005 smart cdi pulse cabriolet 450: Rana smartii, "smart frog" (green/black/blue cloth, OE cruise, strikeline) ![]() 2008 Mercedes-Benz B 200: The family car, small outside and massive inside: a solid, comfy reliable car! ![]() 1966 Peugeot 404 Coupé Injection: A nice Pininfarina classic with Kugelfischer mechanical fuel injection ![]() |
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Nov 13 2006 - 02:48 PM
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![]() 'Floating' Director of CsC Group: Moderators Posts: 20,321 Joined: May 24th, 05 From: Ladysmith, Vancouver Island, BC CDN Member No.: 5 |
After the rear is released, it's time to open the roof to about the 1/3 open position. You need to be able to see the inner framework, where the headliner rails attach to the metal roof struts that lie transversely across the fabric roof.
The headliner is bonded ans sewn to long plastic U-shaped channels at the points where you can see transverse stitching from the underside, and these U-shaped channels are clipped onto the metal struts. The U-channels run the entire width of the headliner. They are not just little clips on one end or the other. So with the roof partly open, take a blade screwdriver and jam it gently into the space between the U-channel plastic and the metal roof strut, on the strut nearest the rear window. Twist the blade slightly until the first part of the U-channel is released. Do the same on the other side, until one of the ends is completely released for a couple of cm. Then stick your fingers in and pull downwards on the plastic U-channel across the width of the car, working from the side you started on to the opposite side. Be firm, because the headliner's U-channels are clipped on very tightly, and the metal roof struts are robust so you can crank on it if you have to.
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![]() 2005 smart cdi pulse cabriolet 450: Rana smartii, "smart frog" (green/black/blue cloth, OE cruise, strikeline) ![]() 2008 Mercedes-Benz B 200: The family car, small outside and massive inside: a solid, comfy reliable car! ![]() 1966 Peugeot 404 Coupé Injection: A nice Pininfarina classic with Kugelfischer mechanical fuel injection ![]() |
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Nov 13 2006 - 02:57 PM
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![]() 'Floating' Director of CsC Group: Moderators Posts: 20,321 Joined: May 24th, 05 From: Ladysmith, Vancouver Island, BC CDN Member No.: 5 |
Once you have released one of the U-channels, the others are all done in a similar fashion, so just repeat the process another 5 times.
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![]() 2005 smart cdi pulse cabriolet 450: Rana smartii, "smart frog" (green/black/blue cloth, OE cruise, strikeline) ![]() 2008 Mercedes-Benz B 200: The family car, small outside and massive inside: a solid, comfy reliable car! ![]() 1966 Peugeot 404 Coupé Injection: A nice Pininfarina classic with Kugelfischer mechanical fuel injection ![]() |
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Nov 13 2006 - 03:01 PM
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![]() 'Floating' Director of CsC Group: Moderators Posts: 20,321 Joined: May 24th, 05 From: Ladysmith, Vancouver Island, BC CDN Member No.: 5 |
Third U-channel - it's the same as the frst, you will be getting more efficient at this point....
The other three drop like flies and then you have the whole headliner hanging only by the front attachment!
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![]() 2005 smart cdi pulse cabriolet 450: Rana smartii, "smart frog" (green/black/blue cloth, OE cruise, strikeline) ![]() 2008 Mercedes-Benz B 200: The family car, small outside and massive inside: a solid, comfy reliable car! ![]() 1966 Peugeot 404 Coupé Injection: A nice Pininfarina classic with Kugelfischer mechanical fuel injection ![]() |
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Nov 13 2006 - 03:07 PM
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![]() 'Floating' Director of CsC Group: Moderators Posts: 20,321 Joined: May 24th, 05 From: Ladysmith, Vancouver Island, BC CDN Member No.: 5 |
So with the headliner hanging by the frontmost attachment only, all you need to do is release the friction-fit clips. I did the centre portion first, which is identical to the rearmost attachment of the headliner.
But on the front, there are two clips on either lateral extremity, which must be released separately. You will need the screwdriver to do this. Gently pry them out from the underside of the headliner. Presto, you're done!
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![]() 2005 smart cdi pulse cabriolet 450: Rana smartii, "smart frog" (green/black/blue cloth, OE cruise, strikeline) ![]() 2008 Mercedes-Benz B 200: The family car, small outside and massive inside: a solid, comfy reliable car! ![]() 1966 Peugeot 404 Coupé Injection: A nice Pininfarina classic with Kugelfischer mechanical fuel injection ![]() |
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Nov 13 2006 - 03:10 PM
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![]() 'Floating' Director of CsC Group: Moderators Posts: 20,321 Joined: May 24th, 05 From: Ladysmith, Vancouver Island, BC CDN Member No.: 5 |
Lying on the hood of my 404 C, maybe you can see how dirty it is....
The underside shows the foam insulation that is bonded to the fabric, and the U-channels.
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Number of downloads: 59-------------------- 2006 smart BRABUS Canada 1 cabriolet 450: Snowball (BRABUS Tailor Made, leather/Alcantara, OE cruise)
![]() 2005 smart cdi pulse cabriolet 450: Rana smartii, "smart frog" (green/black/blue cloth, OE cruise, strikeline) ![]() 2008 Mercedes-Benz B 200: The family car, small outside and massive inside: a solid, comfy reliable car! ![]() 1966 Peugeot 404 Coupé Injection: A nice Pininfarina classic with Kugelfischer mechanical fuel injection ![]() |
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Nov 13 2006 - 03:13 PM
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![]() 'Floating' Director of CsC Group: Moderators Posts: 20,321 Joined: May 24th, 05 From: Ladysmith, Vancouver Island, BC CDN Member No.: 5 |
So for cleaning, I put mine in the bathtub and used laundry detergent and a fingernail brush to get the dirt out. It was about 99% effective.
Although I have not done it yet (headliner is drip-drying as I write this), re-installation of the headliner will be the reverse of removal, working from the front to the back of the car. -------------------- 2006 smart BRABUS Canada 1 cabriolet 450: Snowball (BRABUS Tailor Made, leather/Alcantara, OE cruise)
![]() 2005 smart cdi pulse cabriolet 450: Rana smartii, "smart frog" (green/black/blue cloth, OE cruise, strikeline) ![]() 2008 Mercedes-Benz B 200: The family car, small outside and massive inside: a solid, comfy reliable car! ![]() 1966 Peugeot 404 Coupé Injection: A nice Pininfarina classic with Kugelfischer mechanical fuel injection ![]() |
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Nov 13 2006 - 08:26 PM
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![]() Group: Regular Members Posts: 1,956 Joined: Jul 16th, 05 From: Hamilton Ontario Member No.: 166 |
Let's hope it doesn't shrink.
-------------------- 2006 smart fortwo passion cabriolet, silver/scratch black, bungee grey interior, A/C, softouch, locking under seat drawer, storage compartment cover, power heated mirrors, speed sensitive wipers, drive lock, smart sound package, clock & rev counter, drivers vanity mirror, velour floormats, coreline wheels and wide tires, brabus spoiler, s-mann intake scoop, K&N filter, delipped intake, Technine Tuning Stage II re-map, keyless power windows, front mudflaps, Fiamm air horns, Euro spec fenders and lighting, HID headlights and foglights, Garmin navigation system.
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Nov 13 2006 - 08:57 PM
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![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 4,349 Joined: Jun 5th, 05 From: Campbell River, BC Member No.: 66 |
do you think spraying some sort of protectant may help keep it cleaner?
S -------------------- O ||||||| O 2007 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited There are two types of pedestrians in this world. The quick and the dead. |
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Nov 13 2006 - 09:59 PM
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![]() 'Floating' Director of CsC Group: Moderators Posts: 20,321 Joined: May 24th, 05 From: Ladysmith, Vancouver Island, BC CDN Member No.: 5 |
No it diidn't shrink. I dried it in our shower stall this afternoon and just re-installed it in the car an hour ago. Perfect fit, and perfectly clean!
Re-installation is a lot easier than removal because everything just snaps easily into place. If the U-channels are not centred properly on the roof struts, it's not a problem, because they can be slid from side to side easily once installed. Re-installation took me about three minutes. There would be no point in Scotchgarding it because it'll still get dirty, and the only way to clean it thoroughly is to remove it! Right Muriel? -------------------- 2006 smart BRABUS Canada 1 cabriolet 450: Snowball (BRABUS Tailor Made, leather/Alcantara, OE cruise)
![]() 2005 smart cdi pulse cabriolet 450: Rana smartii, "smart frog" (green/black/blue cloth, OE cruise, strikeline) ![]() 2008 Mercedes-Benz B 200: The family car, small outside and massive inside: a solid, comfy reliable car! ![]() 1966 Peugeot 404 Coupé Injection: A nice Pininfarina classic with Kugelfischer mechanical fuel injection ![]() |
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Nov 14 2006 - 05:39 AM
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![]() Crazy Quacker Group: Regular Members Posts: 8,952 Joined: Jul 30th, 05 From: Ontario, Canada Member No.: 201 |
Great resource and an interesting read! Pretty amazing how complex the whole folding roof system is on the cab's.
-Iain -------------------- |
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Nov 14 2006 - 07:07 AM
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Group: Regular Members Posts: 873 Joined: May 31st, 06 From: Queen&Pape, Toronto Member No.: 977 |
Greetings:
Thanks for doing such an excellent job describing the process! Cheers, Ian Jay -------------------- '05 Pulse stream green/black tridion cabrio, a/c (?), fanfare, CD changer, Loblaws beach towels (smiley serpents or smiley faces) on seats, "GOTSMART" plates, ordered Sept '04, delivered Feb '05
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Nov 14 2006 - 10:57 PM
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![]() Efficiency Matters Group: Moderators Posts: 5,505 Joined: May 26th, 05 From: Abbotsford, BC Member No.: 43 |
Gee, I need a new car so I can practice that routine.
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Nov 16 2006 - 09:20 PM
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![]() 'Floating' Director of CsC Group: Moderators Posts: 20,321 Joined: May 24th, 05 From: Ladysmith, Vancouver Island, BC CDN Member No.: 5 |
Be careful when re-installing to tuck any excess fabric (that is slightly loose from the plastic tongue of the leading edge of the headliner) into the black plastic groove.
A thin plastic card, thinner than a credit card, would be especially suitable to help with this "tucking in" procedure. Failing that, a business card..... If you don't take care at this stage, the leading edge of the headliner may look ragged after re-installation. -------------------- 2006 smart BRABUS Canada 1 cabriolet 450: Snowball (BRABUS Tailor Made, leather/Alcantara, OE cruise)
![]() 2005 smart cdi pulse cabriolet 450: Rana smartii, "smart frog" (green/black/blue cloth, OE cruise, strikeline) ![]() 2008 Mercedes-Benz B 200: The family car, small outside and massive inside: a solid, comfy reliable car! ![]() 1966 Peugeot 404 Coupé Injection: A nice Pininfarina classic with Kugelfischer mechanical fuel injection ![]() |
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Dec 23 2007 - 05:29 PM
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![]() Group: Regular Members Posts: 708 Joined: Jun 6th, 05 From: Victoria, B.C. Member No.: 72 |
Yesterday I finally remembered and had time to remove our headliner, following Mike's instructions.
The instructions were easy to follow and removed without problems. We successfully scrubbed it in the bathtub with ivory dish soap, some color safe powdered bleach and a soft brush. Then hung it to dry overnight. I put in back in this afternoon and it really looks great. This procedure works wonders and we will be doing this every fall after having the cabrio top down all summer. -------------------- 2005 Fortwo Passion Cabrio cdi with Silver Tridion, NUMERIC BLUE (EU) Panels & Power Mirrors. Black Leather Heated Seats & Storage Drawer, A/C, Power Steering, Soft Touch, Complete with Clock & Rev Counter, Sound Package and Vanity Mirrors. Now with Upgraded Horn, Wheel Locks, Aluminum Blue Suspension Caps, Driver Footrest, Ignition Free Window Module, Blue LED Interior Light, Euro Side Markers, Interior Wind Blocker, Cruise Control, a TENT TRAILER, Valve Stem Caps, & Scan Gauge. More to come! |
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Dec 24 2007 - 03:48 PM
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![]() Group: Regular Members Posts: 320 Joined: Jun 7th, 06 From: WEsT Coast Member No.: 1,000 |
Sounds like someone need to design, make,and perhaps market, a cover to protect the top from dirt when folded down.
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Nov 29 2008 - 07:16 PM
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![]() 'Floating' Director of CsC Group: Moderators Posts: 20,321 Joined: May 24th, 05 From: Ladysmith, Vancouver Island, BC CDN Member No.: 5 |
And two years on I have washed it again. It's still coming out clean, so that's good. Removing it can be done without the steps described at the beginning of this thread, if you have strong fingers and a high pain threshold
-------------------- 2006 smart BRABUS Canada 1 cabriolet 450: Snowball (BRABUS Tailor Made, leather/Alcantara, OE cruise)
![]() 2005 smart cdi pulse cabriolet 450: Rana smartii, "smart frog" (green/black/blue cloth, OE cruise, strikeline) ![]() 2008 Mercedes-Benz B 200: The family car, small outside and massive inside: a solid, comfy reliable car! ![]() 1966 Peugeot 404 Coupé Injection: A nice Pininfarina classic with Kugelfischer mechanical fuel injection ![]() |
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Nov 30 2008 - 06:34 AM
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![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,511 Joined: May 9th, 07 From: West Island of Montreal Member No.: 2,983 |
Thanks again! My first cleaning will be later this week, when I do a between-services service (winterizing and adjusting). Hopefully the cruise wiper stalks will be in shortly, too.
-------------------- Francesco
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